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Hello, zijn er geen problemen geweest met de gecrashte 118 na deze chipping ? (verzekering, enz…)
Ik heb dezelfde 118D dus interesseert mij dit ook wel
Also don’t forget that diesels tend to have 1 gear more than petrols, which throws the possibilty of going trough a torque (or horsepower)-peak one more time than petrols. Surely, they need to shift once more … Take in mind, the “wider rev band” is a smokescreen, you cannot use it for going fast. Going fast = shifting at the correct time, not staying in one gear to show off how wide your rev. band is. The width does not really matter, neither does the amount of revs. HP and torque available.
Well, in fact, comparable diesel engines with LESS horsepower do take on petrols (with MORE horsepower), because of their much higher amounts of torque. You have to see what you compare, a 4-cyl. 2liter versus a V8 is not what you should do. Turbo lag ? Of course, but it is not mandatory to use the revs which cause turbo lag, you should look for usuable revs. Ironically, that is more a problem with petrol cars : wider rev bands, cause more difficulties choosing gears.
these aren’t racing cars, just cars for daily use. If I could I would have bought a M3 and take my bike to go to work everyday I get your point but this vid is just to show that you’re easily able to get some better performance from the pre-facelift 118d.
The high torque figures for diesels is a smoke screen (a dirty diesel one). When you factor in the turbo lag and the tiny weeny power band (because of the low revving), in the end it is much slower than the equivalent petrol. And at the end of the day, if you race a diesel on a track against the equivalent petrol, the petrol will outhandle the diesel because of the heavy lump the diesel has in the front and the infelexibility of using power through corners without gear changes.
I suppose BMW diesel cars are ok…but you still can’t beat petrol for performance. Supercars are nearly always petrol and diesels are fine for endurance races like Le Mans…but not “real” racing. You do realise diesel engines cannot be made with light alloys/metals liek aluminiun etc? They must be made of heavy, strong metals…so HEAVY engines. You do also realise that diesels don’t rev very highly..6,000 RPM is a LOT for a diesel.
what’s so pathetic about racing diesels? BMW makes one of the best diesels in the world, just look into 335d (probably quicker in real life than 335i). Or what about all that LeMans winning Audi diesel cars? You are living in 1990s it seems and your idea of diesel must be a noisy clickityclack Mercedes W123 taxi car or Ford Transit minivan. the torque you get from diesel is hard to match. Only sound is lacking.
I want to know who that brave chap is at the start who stands inbetween the two cars holding a camera. Kudos to him for not shitting his pants. And since when have people started racing diesels? How pathetic is that??
BMW started selling the E92 320d with 177hp in march 2007 here Belgium. at the time this video was shot, both cars were brand new.
so seriously, everyone, the 320d in this vid has 177hp, not 163.
nope, really is 177hp.
you can also buy a 163hp version here in Belgium, which is cheaper in taxes…
this car however has 177hp. check the technical specs.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
Goan mé die beemer!
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
2.2 toyota desiel is aliuminium,, so are all 1995cc BMW desiels….
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
Hello, zijn er geen problemen geweest met de gecrashte 118 na deze chipping ? (verzekering, enz…)
Ik heb dezelfde 118D dus interesseert mij dit ook wel
Nice vid btw
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
deze is intussen perte totale.
mijn eigen 118d is ook gechipped, nog steeds geen problemen.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
Hahaha “Ohw Jong” .
Enige problemen met slijtage sinds het chippen of loopt de 118d nog perfect?
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
a local tuning company, CTH
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
which tuner chipped the 1-series?
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
Also don’t forget that diesels tend to have 1 gear more than petrols, which throws the possibilty of going trough a torque (or horsepower)-peak one more time than petrols. Surely, they need to shift once more … Take in mind, the “wider rev band” is a smokescreen, you cannot use it for going fast. Going fast = shifting at the correct time, not staying in one gear to show off how wide your rev. band is. The width does not really matter, neither does the amount of revs. HP and torque available.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
Well, in fact, comparable diesel engines with LESS horsepower do take on petrols (with MORE horsepower), because of their much higher amounts of torque. You have to see what you compare, a 4-cyl. 2liter versus a V8 is not what you should do. Turbo lag ? Of course, but it is not mandatory to use the revs which cause turbo lag, you should look for usuable revs. Ironically, that is more a problem with petrol cars : wider rev bands, cause more difficulties choosing gears.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
these aren’t racing cars, just cars for daily use. If I could I would have bought a M3 and take my bike to go to work everyday
I get your point but this vid is just to show that you’re easily able to get some better performance from the pre-facelift 118d.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
The high torque figures for diesels is a smoke screen (a dirty diesel one). When you factor in the turbo lag and the tiny weeny power band (because of the low revving), in the end it is much slower than the equivalent petrol. And at the end of the day, if you race a diesel on a track against the equivalent petrol, the petrol will outhandle the diesel because of the heavy lump the diesel has in the front and the infelexibility of using power through corners without gear changes.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
I suppose BMW diesel cars are ok…but you still can’t beat petrol for performance. Supercars are nearly always petrol and diesels are fine for endurance races like Le Mans…but not “real” racing. You do realise diesel engines cannot be made with light alloys/metals liek aluminiun etc? They must be made of heavy, strong metals…so HEAVY engines. You do also realise that diesels don’t rev very highly..6,000 RPM is a LOT for a diesel.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
what’s so pathetic about racing diesels? BMW makes one of the best diesels in the world, just look into 335d (probably quicker in real life than 335i). Or what about all that LeMans winning Audi diesel cars? You are living in 1990s it seems and your idea of diesel must be a noisy clickityclack Mercedes W123 taxi car or Ford Transit minivan. the torque you get from diesel is hard to match. Only sound is lacking.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
I want to know who that brave chap is at the start who stands inbetween the two cars holding a camera. Kudos to him for not shitting his pants. And since when have people started racing diesels? How pathetic is that??
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
BMW started selling the E92 320d with 177hp in march 2007 here Belgium. at the time this video was shot, both cars were brand new.
so seriously, everyone, the 320d in this vid has 177hp, not 163.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
oh really thats what im looking to get what reg is it on ?
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
The 177HP is the 2008+ version of the 320D. 163HP is the previous model.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
actually this is a friends car… but the 118 has crashed & is totalled unfortunately
I own a grey 118d M-sports…
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
nope, really is 177hp.
you can also buy a 163hp version here in Belgium, which is cheaper in taxes…
this car however has 177hp. check the technical specs.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
thanks for sharing that captain obvious! what about the 135i? is that even better????
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
123d….204hp!!! ist better!!
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
The 2007 320d has 163HP, not 177!
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
pro vid mate , is it your personal car ? or did u find the video ?
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
nice vid! usually the camera stay @ the starting point, and often you can’t see the arrival…
March 13th, 2010 at 1:58 am
Even voor de duidelijkheid, bhp is niet hetzelfde als hp…